THE MORE WE KNOW, THE BETTER IT GETS

Awareness is MY LIGHT -yes -all the way…
It have been very,very hard and long, long way to BELIVE in what we DON´`t SEE !
First I learned to FEEL and then SEE and not lost FAITH !
And I BELIVE now  - this is like INTERNET - I can`nt SEE how my words are going to YOU-
but here they are and you can read this! And feel those feelings in this words!
And I´ll try to help others to BELIVE too! Itś NOT easy!
You  KNOW that!
This is so EXITED and more better then those things, what we can SEE and touch!

thats right - “the more we KNOW, the better it gets ”

 lm

According to the Bible Cain got a wife (after slaying his brother) in the “land of KNod”… This was possible because mathmatically there should have been about 500,000 people on the earth by then… (Adam and Eve were told to “REPLENISH THE EARTH”) which means that the earth had “Pre-Adam” or “Pre-Adamic” civilizations BEFORE their creation…AND…it also dosen't declare that either Adam or Eve disputed or stopped giving births nor that their children did either… (average age of ability to reproduce considered and  included in the mathmatics)…

“Incest is a Sin”…there were enough people that distant-cousins mated with other distant-cousins…But later it became God's law to protect immediate families from the consequences that were probably done by trial-and-error at first…

“Evolution and Creation”…see my blog and watch the video on “Why evolution is so stupid”… (you might like it…)…Only “adaptive evolution” exists…

If  “Awareness is your light”…you need to see all the many videos on my blog at my zaadz site…just click on my site and the “blog” tab and get started…(about 70 of them I think…make some popcorn…)…

skyman

Hi Saidi,
In the Bible see 'Luke 3:38'… which reads: 'Enos who was the son of Seth, who was the son of Adam, who was the son of God.' So according to the Bible… Adam was the flesh and blood offspring of God… just like Enos was the son of Seth. 
Fire hardened cuneiform inscribed clay tablets from  Sumer (modern Iraq) predate the Bible by 2,000 years ! When transcribed, these tablets claim that human beings (Homo Sapiens-Sapiens, or 'modern man') was created by' the 'Annunaki' (meaning:'Those who from the heavens came down') 2 Books by Zecharia Sitchin cover this area very well. They are: 'Genesis Revisited' and 'The 12th Planet'
What is basically being explained by Sitchin, is that the Sumerian records show that 'the Gods' (Annunaki… called later in the Old Testament, the Elohim) tired of laboring themselves an resolved to create a worker race. So they took the sperm of an Annunaki male and fertilized the ovum of a Cro-magnon (Neanderthal) Woman in a test tube. This fertilized egg was then inserted into the womb of an Annunaki 'Birth Goddess'… and 10 months later, 'the Adam' was born… and it was good. So they made more. 
What's fascinating about this science fiction like tale… is that it actually makes sense given the historical data that we actually have ! Here's the deal.. .because we have never found the 'missing link' skeletons… that would prove an uninterrupted evolutionary development of human beings… science has a problem proving evolution. Well… if this genetic hybridization experiment was true… it would explain the heretofore unexplainable 'evolutionary Jump'  from primitive man to modern man, that right now… science can't explain.
An interesting subject.
By the way… supposedly, the root word of 'Worship' is the Samarian word: 'Avod', which means 'to work for' ! So when people 'worship' God… are they 'working for' God ? And if so… if they are not being paid for 'Worshipping', or 'working for' ,God… isn't this unpaid labor 'slavery' !
Who Ho !!!
Crazy stuff !
1-Oneness…
RichieSun-1

dear saidi …

as god is within the frequencies …

frequencies might communicate a glimpse of his logic and magick

which brings me to some cryptic revealed …

http://globalresonance.net/message.cfm?messageid=261160

to that i add:
i think each human chakra is aligned to a frequency / a universe / a clue
here is show 3 of 7 universal known chakra whirls

the first is part of the sensoric 3 chakra's; the last is part of the telepathic 3 chakra's; and ths middle one is facilitating the bridge between the two worldtypes - say : the masculine and the feminine …

when we look at the middle one 4 numbers are given to comprehend 7:

11 22 33 44 55 66 77

fractally communicating 11 as a key to understand and overcome …

what does 11 communicate and/or catalyze? what do you think out of your domain of reference …

(anyhow a clue may be the fact 11 is the 6th odd … ;-)

I agree that first we sense what we can't see. I was making connections with things beyond what should be known to me, at first I ignored these things was sceptical, but then I realised I was being helped to help others. I aked myself what I was connecting to and the only logical answer I could come up with was universal consciousness, as it was way beyond what might be coincidence and a gift that I would be stupid to ignore.I connect with relatives, friends, complete strangers, even animals, I know of things that occur at a
distance.and I am drawn to help.

The more we know, the more concepts we have. Knowing is a necessity of the ego, not of the true self. The more concepts we have, the more we feel separated from the others. The metaphors that bible and others sacred books bring to us are only this: metaphors. To be used in the sake of the human kind spiritual and moral awakening. They are inspirational not an history. It is very easy to awake. It is very easy to achieve the enligthment. Discard everything that you know, discard all of the concepts that you have, discard all of the identities with which you identify yourself, and be free, here and now. Accept the things, everything, as it is, here and now. Be equanimous! Be.

Evolution and creation—can we understand the difference (or relationship)?

evolution is when looking back
creation is when looking forward
result is now

my 5cts
best regards, Ron

Evolution and creation is the same thing. When did the moment of Now begin? Feel the answers to these questions asked, know the answers dont attempt to think of them.

Our “journey” of life is about re-membering our divinity and connection to spirit.  As our divine-humanity becomes our awareness and consciousness we interact with each other -and receive “life's happenings”- with grace and acceptance and confidense in our existence with a surety of being (really its even more so, its an always “is-ness” that isn't even questioned).  As this condition permeates our consciousness so much so that it is as natural as breathing life takes on an equisite delight -like a child playing its favorite game with curiosity and expectation of the moment and the next play in the game.

When “playing the game of life” with conscious awareness of being a divine-human and feeling that 'security-of-being' our circumstances and happenings become the “flotsam and jetsam” in a movie.  As such, they inform us but do not compell us.  One “navigates” by sensing the divine's (our expanded self) leading in each moment and following that -not trying to direct it or make the moment something it isn't. 
Love and Light,
Sunyata Satchitananda

Evolution and creation is the same thing.

From what perspective ?
For me they are totally different things.
Evolution is dead, as is all past-oriented expectation of the future.

Creation, on the other hand, is unknown until it has become evolution.
best regards, Ron

Having not read most of the other comments, I write my own…
Being more direct on the meaning of the words in the bible…

It would of course be that incest was there and not a problem; but these people were not humans…
They lived for up to a millenia, and degraded with each incestous generation, until they numbered in thousands to millions and had normal traits and life spans…

Well, I am trying hard not to be bias, but debating questions relating to the bible is as moot as debating the events in a Dr. Seuss book. Is incest a sin? Well, what if one doesn't subscribe to the religious doctrine of 'sin'? This becomes a moot point. I can't say something is or isn't a sin because to say either way would be a validation that sin is a real phenomena, which I personally do not believe (not in the religion context, which seems to be the atmosphere of this discussion). As for believing what we don't see… I find it preposterous to believe what one cannot see or experience, but who is to say that what one person claims to see or experience isn't real? This is a matter of personal choice, and it is evident in countless history books that this is also the root of most wars; one person or group forcing something they believe on other people.

As far a creationism vs. evolution… I personally don't see them as mutually exclusive or even separate at all, Everything is connected. Creation of one thing is just a change from another perspective. Example, babies seem to be created… yet it is really just the coming together of two things that already existed and then changes happen… creation from nothing is simply an illusion.

I don't have the answers, but thats my two cents! Interesting topic, I enjoyed thinking about it!

Peace.
-Adam

You don't have to subscribe to religion for sins to be true…
Look up the Satanic Sins…
They are all based on logic, nothing else…

I do not believe we have to believe in what we don’t see. In this context I don’t think the word see applies necessarily to the senses, but to what we can logically comprehend, or at least understand on a mundane level. If the purpose of life is awareness, realization, understanding, then believing in things we can’t see in this instance is more of a roadblock. For example, many religious members have a minimal understanding of their religions, they dont SEE how the laws of God work, they don’t see them as a science based on cause and effect, thought and principle, and perspective. God simply is this omniscient being that you better catch on a good day, and take his word for it! If someone incessantly convinces themself that this is believing, then they will never care to progress through understanding how He works, and through that, expanding on the path of self-realization.

All the religions were right; it’s just after several centuries of shortcuts, metaphors, etc. the true meanings were lost, often replaced by power-hungry entities, which further diltued the truth…

Your believe in understanding -'accurate'
Evolution is correct, no need to create.
awareness is the self awareness.
it is the inner light.
we are unable to see with our normal eyes.
we need microscopes in certain Cases.
BLIND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SEE WITH THEIR INNER EYE.
pineal gland.
you can see modern world has achieved nothing except kill each other with latest ammunition.
Famous epic 'maha bharatha' makesa irregularities into regularities and the ' Bhagavad Gita ' which is a part of it also teaches to accept everything as normal.
This is the way to live in this world.

The key thing is that we don't know.  That we are unable to know, either in science or in religion, for we have no way to verify the history.  The past disappears with each day, and decays with alarming speed.  That which we do discover about the past is our perception of the past, not the facts.  We can only guess at what is provable, and with that, the religious text also are but accounts of what is subjective perceptions of a past that was before the authors of the religious text.  It may be that man developed through intervention by others, as it is sometimes suggested.  The gods, as it is actually written in the bible, until at some point the managers of the christen religion decided that having more than one god would complicate things.  They did their best to re-write the passages, but some still exist today, and are evident in older versions of the bible that persisted.  At one time it was deadly to have an older version of the bible, because that disputed the current version.   Over time religion has become like any great business.  I think that it is losing in the competition with more secular businesses.  As we try to dissect the history we only find that we know less than we did before.  This is key to vision.  Learning what you don't know, that is key to illumination.  Not everything is as it seems, and somethings that are not what they seem are really not what they seem.  The greatest threat to man is himself, his ignorance, his intolerance, and his lack of vision.  The concept of a God is rather easy for people to accept, it takes the responsibility off themselves.  That there are really many gods is a matter of perception.  There may be other races of creatures that have a greater intellect than we do, believe it or not.  Just as the thought that we are the sole world in the thousands of millions of universes is ignorance and arrogance, so is the thought that there is one god, or that there may not be those that consider themselves gods.  Gods themselves may be “working” for other gods, as horses work for us, only because they do not perceive any other options.  We do not see any other choice, we are presented with a limited view of the universe and time, especially time.  We do not remember enough time to understand the future, never mind understanding the past.  Perhaps even the present is only one of many different possible choices, only we can't see those other choices.  Maybe there are several or hundreds of side choices that we are not aware of, or only barely aware of.

Sometimes I see things, I feel things, hear things, know things, that do not exactly align with what I perceive as the reality I am fed.  Sometimes I think that maybe these are shadows of other worlds, or other dimensions.  I guess that the great sorcerers of the stories (myths) might have been other gods.  I look through the myths with the eye that they are sometimes hiding truth that is denied.  I read volumes of books seeking any kernel of truth, only to realize that maybe the truth is simple, is right before me.  I question my own beliefs, and those of others, but only to understand.  It is with this that no answers are provided, but the questions become clearer.  I cannot answer any of your questions, but I can tell you that you are only beginning to look down the path to enlightenment, as enlightenment is a process, not a place, it is the path, but not the only path, and it is a perception, but just maybe not the only one available.

If you just look hard enough and deep enough inside your self, you may find that the answers for what you seek is inside you.  Maybe you are just not asking yourself the right questions.

Oh, religion.. religion..   Time to be FREE of it!!!  It has served as a distraction, a source of confusion and by far the biggest separating factor among human beings.  Being aware, in my opinion, has NOTHING to do with religion.  GOD… has nothing to do with religion really.  Are we aware that the trees bring oxygen and that just so happens to be what we need to breathe?  Are we aware that we do not have to work for the purest form, water, (which we are mostly made of and need to replenish), yet it freely falls from the sky?  Are we aware that our own personal choices, as a collective as well, shape our small worlds and big worlds?  The answer to these questions, I hope, would be yes to all.  What purpose does it serve to be aware of what happened in the Bible or any other so-called “sacred” books?  Especially when it comes to events and people.  Something divine and inspirational happened to me about 8 years ago.  I did not get to write it in a book and bind it in leather with chapters and a seal of approval by any priests or holy man.  Does it make what happened to me any less sacred or something that the world should not be “aware” of? 
Here's what I feel about life and awareness:  BE aware that we are in 2007 and the light has been turned on in a dark time ruled by greed, religion, secrets, and corruption.  Poverty all over the world, war, slavery, and hatred.  Does any of our oldest living ancestors name a time when they have witnessed a flood or a voice coming from the sky or a great man walking turning anything into anything?  I don't think so.  We are here and we do not look to eachother as the causes or the help for the situation of the world we live in.  What happened or didn't happen distracts us from what's happenING!  Who are we?  What's going on?  What's been going on while we are sleeping in our distracting illusions?  The government is not for the people and has not been for a long time.. and we worrying about what the hell evolution means?????

No offense, but it is TIME TO WAKE UP!!!  FOCUS………..  LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE   one another.  Share what we have with eachother, whether it be resources, time, money, clothes, wares, living spaces, information, or inspiration.  THIS>> IS GOD!!

God is a person, place, thing, idea, action, description, feeling, etc….  Do God, Feel God, Be God, Evolve God, CREATE GOD.  It's time for the action of being, leave the distracting substances alone, they are addictive and destructive to mankind and all other existing entities that feel vibrations.  Use our unused brain POWER to find a door to change and a new way of life, new rules, new internal language.  Shed the dead skin of religion and sorry ways of thinking and dealing with eachother and learn how to live in the new skin of peace, power and harmonious vibrating. 
Okay, That's my two cents…
Peace and Love is what I wish for this beautiful world.

Isoke- satisfying gift from God

Hey Saidi,

Here are my thoughts; I hope they help.

Looking at the big picture, there are always limiting factors. In physics, it is called Entropy. Everything left on it's own moves towards randomness and a static state. That would be energy and matter unorganized as it is described in the Old Testament. That is the universe in it's natural state.

There is an opposing force that moves everything towards organization, diversity, and beauty. This is creation. From the highly textured nature of quantum mechanics, to the texture of the leaves on the trees, everything shows a signature for variety and aesthetic intelligence. The universe is split into dualities to teach us the nature of all things. Light is nothing without dark. Good is nothing without evil. Life is nothing without death.

Evolution is what we humans use to describe the on-flowing, streaming nature of creation. Things are moving on towards higher levels of intelligence, higher levels of beauty, and higher levels of love. This is the nature of God.

We as individual spirits beings are on a long course of evolution as well. We can only complete the purpose of our creation by opening up and receiving the natural consequences of our choices.

From a scientific view, the state in which we call dark is the absence of light. That state of cold is just the absence of radiant warmth. Similarly, that state which we call despair, is the absence of hope and faith. That which we call evil is the natural result of cutting ourselves off from that which is good. The dual nature of reality allows us see the consequences of our choices.

If we do not seek that which gives light, warmth, faith, and good, then we cut ourselves off from God's nature and the natural consequences are that our nature changes into something that can only bring us despair and pain.

We have so much more creative power than we know. We have so much more ability to create the results we want, than what we exercise. If you have seen the movie “The Secret”, then you have seen a glimpse of the idea that God is wanting to share with us his creative power, but first we must learn to control it. And for that we must learn to control ourselves.

Socrates said, “Let him that would move the world, first move himself.” It all begins with us. If I want love in this world, then I must create love inside me. If we really want peace in the world, we must first create peace inside ourselves. We have to push against the limiting factors, move against entropy, and organize inside and outside into a higher state of being.

 For those interested in trying to create a supportive community for making changes in your life, check out my blog: http://david-msw.zaadz.com/blog.

Namasté,

David

awareness- aware that one is but a frame in a movie that has no beginning and will have
no end. awareness that this “frame” tries to explain how the “movie” began , where we
are in the story our role in it  and how it “should” end.  We are fragments trying to
explain the whole.  Where the majority of the cosmos is dark,unknown and mysterious,
we attempt to define life and what is based on only that which can have light shine on it
(waking consciousness). AS stuart davis writes in one of his lyrics,” we lick the
shadows that play across Platos cave and call that life.

I t depends on where your awareness is coming from.
Does it come from the MIND? or the mind ?
Or does it come from the history of other s minds
and it is genuine or others stories,histories?

It must come from The Creator which of course has no “real” book or story,just Infinity.and the Eternal now. There and only thre lies the real anwer. In love,inside of you,just wating to be re-remembered.

It's all an illusion. Does it really even matter? Just be

bible is just another book man wrote, there're millions of other religious books.  I think in a world of coexisting illusion and reality, we can only identify things by our own definitions, things are the way we define them, if we call it a chair, it is a chair to us, even our notion of the “chair” might be different, with awareness gives us the power to differenciate the definitions. 
I do lots of tricks, and magic won't be magical if no one believes in it, yet I prefer calling it sleight of hand, and manipulation technique, to keep it real and entertaining still.  We cannot grasp anything beyond our reasoning gained from experience.  Since believing is like admitting it's fact, so why believe in something that is beyond our comprehendable reality , or our reach of understanding and knowledges? how can one be so sure? I'd rather admit that I failed to believe in any of such assumptions, without denying or neglecting the probable potentiality of the possibilities within… Defining unknown through blind faith is like ignoring its capacity of falsifyability and reasonings, to me is a kind of fallacy that allows I to deceive myself. 

Sigh…I don't know the answers…even so, It's all relative to one's own perception ;-)
I DO know that God is Good ;-)

I really, really, really like what Isoke says and I feel the same way!!! (I'm with you, Isoke!)
Love is the answer to everything.

(I never got too deep in the religious books to get into debating ancient issues, we have our own problems in the here and now to take care of! We have wasted enough time arguing over stuff that is dead and should be left that way. It just doesn't exist in this time and place and we should stop bringing it INTO the present.)

The key thing is that we don't know.

Amen, James !

As I understand it consciousness is light and sound, the unified field that that quantum physic points to. Each of as a spiritual being is both light and sound. Awareness being the knowingness of where we are in our state of consciousness. I feel humanity is evolving to begin to know or at least have glimpses of deeper levels of consciousness that connect us all together.

For me God a formless timeless beingness of consciousness that has two aspects: Light which is unconditional LOVE and knowledge and sound which is the creative power of life. Soul( our spiritual self) being a part/piece of God. We are God and God is us. So, like Christine said….JUST BE :-)

I agree that we must lose religion. It has been used far more to control humanity that to help humanity wake up. Jesus had a very simple message: Love God, Love your neighbor, and love your enemy. The kingdom of heaven is within and is found within the heart. Again, the key is LOVE. All of which is completely lost to Christians.

I have always found it very interesting that virtually all religions and spiritual teachings state in their scriptures that God con not be found through the mind. Then proceed to give mental intellectualized instructions on how to get to God. I say drop the BS and open your Heart!

The important thing is that we are in this journey together. Every thought, feeling and intention is energy that affects all life around you. Yes, we are each on our own spiritual path because all life IS spiritual. The whole is always greater than the sum of the parts. So, it is more what you “give” than what you “get” in life that counts.

And then again…maybe I’m just crazy :-)

Rich

There isn’t any point discounting anything in particular. If I rebel against religion, I have found a new religion. There is no such thing as a Christian, there is no such thing as a Hindu, there is no such thing as a Muslim, there is no such thing as a Buddhist, there is no such thing as a Jew.

You can’t go to Hell! You can’t go to Heaven! All that you can do is find yourself to be right smack in the middle of one or the other. One of them is something you made up! The other one is You! If you don’t know that then there is no telling what you might do to defend your Religion, or defend yourself against one.

If you see the source of suffering as being fear born of ignorance, then you see a lack of Love, clarity, Awareness, Light. If you see that, either you get out of it, or you supply the lack out of compassion. Both are are gifts worth giving, born of Love.

Fear is the aggressor, Fear is a Lack of Love. The aggressor is in need of Love.

Rebel against the urge towards complexity and separation! Just give it an honest effort, a single day and the need for it will be perfectly clear.

we must try to go beyond religions.
There is no hell or heaven, they are here in all our lives.
only thing we have to swim through them all.

I believe the Bible to be an allegory, not fact.  Therefore to me it is not  relevant as to Cain, his wife, or the generations thereof.

Should we believe in that  which we have not seen?  What is faith if it is not the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not yet seen or manifested?

Faith is not necessarily religion.  it is not man made, and has nothing to do with man's religions.  Faith is simply the unmanifested hopes, dreams and aspiriations we all have.  Faith is the spark, it is the catalyst, and it is the creative process that begins the actual manifestation of  our desires.  Faith is persistant. It  tenacity in the face of trials, persistance in the face of dissapointment, and endurance  in the face of that which taxes our strength. 

Yes, there are religions with people that believe in the doctrine to one degree or other. Many have improved their lives thru their religion of choice. religions have had a place in humanity’s unfoldment. But as children must one day become adults, so too humanity must outgrow the belief that it needs a God authority outside one’s self. We are all connected to God/Tao/Spirit (or whatever you choose to call IT) via the Heart and to each other as well. This is what I meant. Going beyond religion is more accurate than losing them.

The God/Tao/Spirit that is written or spoken is not the true God/Tao/Spirit but a reflection. The true God/Tao/Spirit can only be known via personal experience. Personal experience cauldron that transforms knowledge into wisdom. We are all spiritual beings that are here to teach and learn from each other so together we can manifest deeper levels of consciousness here on Earth.

I've heard that mistranslations of the Bible have lead to this misunderstanding that there was only one “Adam” and one “Eve.” The names Adam and Eve are representative of Man and Woman - in other words, God created humanKIND. Many Adams and Eves. Many Edens (states of innocence and purity).

The serpent and the tree of knowledge could well represent “I know” mind at work, separating us from the “don't know” where peace is possible. Stressful thought of “I” creeps in, we suffer. The only sin is an action that takes an individual away from the realization that s/he is a manifestation of Source…any thing or thought that separates us mentally from Creation, Oneness.

Awareness is the biggest mystery! we use it all the time yet we are not aware (we are in it like fish in a water)as we tend to step out of it and lost our ways in the thought processes as we identify ourselves with thoughts and feelings- but at times we succeed getting in peaceful state where
an object of study is mind itself, mind looking inward, a mind looking itself. I do believe that in the end, God is playing with us, as a part of us
we are all fingers in God hand, points of Its Awareness …English language is no so good in
studing mind, sanskrit has more accurate expressions Light is mind, consciousness is light.
Personalites are waves on the surfice of ocean, the deeper we dive we find that
we are all expressions of the same water.

…another explanation of the Cain/Abel thing can be found in the Urantia Book…(oh yeah…just what we need…another book )…gives an explanation of the Land of Nod thing too…you don't have to read the whole book…just thumb through the index online and skip over most of the 2000 pages…

…Integral Spirituality…the more Knowlege you gather…the more prepared you are to make inteligent decisions…

Faith is believing in what is not seen, it is a substance that exists in the heart and can manifest in the sense world by not wavering. I am afraid I can't help being biased because I believe in Christ the Savior of the World. That belief makes faith relavent to the modern world that surrounds my perception. It is a transcendence from the unseen to the experiential to the seen, which is relavent.

As for Cain & Abel being wed, without cracking open Genesis I know Cain was wed. To whom, I don't know? Abel I'm guessing didn't make to the wedding because of bubba Cain.

Incest. Wow! My understanding is that actual labels of sin came with the Law of Moses. That would be substantially after Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel and Seth and unnamed women children. The establishment of the Law reveals a sense of sin and therefore a penalty for sin. The Savior/Redeemer Christ's one time sacrifice as the Lamb of God fulfills the Law and the Prophets and thus in Christ eliminates the penalty power of sin that leads to death physically or the Second Death spiritually. Thus when sin happens (for no one is free from the influence of sin in this present world because the sin nature still remains in the flesh/sense realm even as the human spirit is transformed), pleading the sacrificial blood of Christ forgives sin. It is a dangerous road to live a life of sin without heartfelt repentance (a turning around and making another way). God is Merciful however He also knows the heart of Man/Woman. A person can deceive another person, but that is not the case of with God. God perceives the darkness or light in a person and knows a con from the truth.

That is what I believe.

:-)

Hope to testify soon.

Aijay

Very good, you are the best.

Awareness is simply that…. awareness~

Without awareness, there is nothing~

The Bible is a construct just like everything that is outside of one’s very own experiences. To believe in another’s view without truly understanding the value of meaning of the assembled words is to have blind faith. That is what keeps this ball turning. It’s not the book or the detailed stories of any religion. It is that mine eyes have opened another day and one must exist comfortably. Now, at what cost of another does comfort arrive? That is the true question. Most people in America couldn’t fathom let alone find comfort in walking in another’s shoes.

Hi Saidi,

I believe that your questions and search for truth are genuine, deep and honest. But I also believe that the person who may have answers to these questions will not in all probability be seated in his chair and browing the Web.

In my humble opinion, Truth encompasses both the rational and the irrational. While we must always possess a curiosity to understand as much Truth as we can – and there's a lot of Truth that we can understand – at the same time we must also possess the readiness to not try to understand, but just believe, things which fall in the irrational realm of Truth.

Science has not answered, and will never answer, the innumberable questions that arise in a human mind. It will answer more and more with passing time. So, this struggle between science (knowledge) and belief will be endless. In order to have a balanced character – spiritually, emotionally and intellectually – one needs to both believe in knowledge and know the belief at the same time.

Love,
Mujahid

Awareness is simply that…. awareness~

Without awareness, there is nothing~

Dear Saidi and Friends,

What a delight to partake in your brilliance!  Thank you.

Here are a few offerings, offered up playfully:

It is said, “Sin arose when the Adam(s) and the Eve(s) partook of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.” and for doing so, they were cast out of paradise. 

Is this a religious belief?  Unfortunately, since the conquest of the wisdom-cultures of many cultures worldwide, we approach tribal medicine stories as a “belief” because we have been cut off from how our own cultures of origin use medicine stories to impart multi-layered wisdom stories that reveal our own reality to us.  See Martín Prechtel's book, The Disobedience of the Daughter of the Sun for a superlative and generous look at this, or Maya Cosmos.  The 12 tribes of Israel were just that:  12 tribes amongst hundreds of thousands inhabiting the world and passing on their human-being “medicine” in condensed, portable, discoverable form.  Very hard to understand that “medicine” when you don't speak the language of it or inhabit the place and gestures of that landscape. 

For those of you who DO appreciate that there IS wisdom in the bible, one of my favorite bible sites, written by a man who was profoundly evangelical - and on some level still is, and delightfully so, once he discovered THE REALLY GOOD NEWS which we are all invited to is <www.yhwh.com>  .  It blew my mind to see how a Christian could be so profoundly dedicated to his path and process that certainly Lao-tzu, Buddha and many other delightful souls would welcome him with spirited delight.

Nevertheless, take that metaphor for sin:  I banish myself from the Garden of Paradise every time I partake of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, because I have split the world in two: Good and Bad, and by definition they are at war with each other.

So whence do we come to know?  René Descartes said, ”cogito ergo sum”  or “I think therefore I am.”  This has defined the narrow confines where most of Westernized humanity resides: the head.  And there is a deeper way of knowing, of feeling, that doesn't require “learning,” it simply responds to the invitation to inhabit fully who we are.

What do I mean?  We might say we are “happy, sad, fearful, angry, ecstatic, at peace, etc.”  That is what cogitation says.  In the body there is a feeling, a sensation, a movement, a living response.  The words might point at it, as if feeling was fixed and not living, categorical and not unpredicatable and wondrous only to those who dare venture in the temple of their own boundles hearts.  Let us dare to go into that.  Daring to inhabit ourselves fully, not just in the cranium, suddenly we discover that the same infinity at play in the heavens invites us to inhabit it right at home, right in our immediate Presence, and Oneness is no longer something to be achieved, it is something we profoundly ARE.  BEING is being us - and we have the delightful opportunity to experience that AND we have the delightful opportunity to think that we are Saidi or Caminante O.  A beautiful invitation to that process can be found at Michael Brown's site www.thepresenceportal.com .  Beautiful. 

        Being plays at being us, splitting itself up into self-differentiating and temporary amnesics spun into the mystery of  “How wonderful to meet you/me again!”   Ha, ha, ha!

Enjoy my dear friend.  You are the deliciousness that the universe swoons into right now!   As for don't see:  we don't see ourselves, only our appendages and reflections.  Do we still believe in this self?  Ha, ha, ha!

Relish yourself!  We all are invited to the feast - as revelers at tableside - and as the eventual meal!   ;  )

great posting, O, thanks much for sharing
i like this site about the name of YHWH - there you see how emotions are really part of religion - perhaps religion has the impact of becoming a code of conduct ?
Vygotsky once mentioned the example of two sisters, age 5 and 7, who said : “let's play sisters”. And then the whole attitude changed, they did what they thought sisters do, and they didnt fight because they thought sisters don't fight.
after the play they were ofcourse still sisters

oh, and another thought was about “the fear of God”. In buddhism, i was told, the term fear refers to an awareness of inner change. This is not the same as fear the emotion - the latter one may affect your thinking etc. So to fear God, i thought, could mean a notion of continuous inner change.

best regards, Ron